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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://sonnietrotter.com/2010/06/28/whos-in-charge-here/comment-page-1/#comment-6291</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just drawing your attention to this very similar logo http://www.paintusa.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just drawing your attention to this very similar logo <a href="http://www.paintusa.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.paintusa.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Tack</title>
		<link>http://sonnietrotter.com/2010/06/28/whos-in-charge-here/comment-page-1/#comment-6166</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Tack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 10:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonnie, welcome back!  Missed your posts.

You were spot on the first time.  Companies are literally heartless.  They are a legal construct that can never die unless the money stops flowing.  So nothing wrong with your description at all!  Of course the individual people (with hearts) at this company may have stepped back, weighed the cost of changing the logo, assessed the potential benefit and decided against it.  Alternatively the company management may be drones who don&#039;t see what is around them, and don&#039;t look at everything with fresh eyes at the start of every day and question why.  Your blog points these things out for people who aspire to be different, so don&#039;t stop being expressing these views just because some people don&#039;t like it.

Which brings me onto the plane point.  Yes you fly.  As do most of us.  My frequent flyer balance is a weird source of conflicting feelings of pride (as a consumer) and shame (as a human).  But the first step towards making any difference is asking &quot;why?&quot;.  Most know you are not the kind of person who would make that impact on the environment without questioning first if it is necessary.  It is this kind of awareness that is the first step towards change, and the more people who have it the closer we will be.  Be proud, you are an inspiration for those who seek this in all aspects of life.  Crush on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonnie, welcome back!  Missed your posts.</p>
<p>You were spot on the first time.  Companies are literally heartless.  They are a legal construct that can never die unless the money stops flowing.  So nothing wrong with your description at all!  Of course the individual people (with hearts) at this company may have stepped back, weighed the cost of changing the logo, assessed the potential benefit and decided against it.  Alternatively the company management may be drones who don&#8217;t see what is around them, and don&#8217;t look at everything with fresh eyes at the start of every day and question why.  Your blog points these things out for people who aspire to be different, so don&#8217;t stop being expressing these views just because some people don&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>Which brings me onto the plane point.  Yes you fly.  As do most of us.  My frequent flyer balance is a weird source of conflicting feelings of pride (as a consumer) and shame (as a human).  But the first step towards making any difference is asking &#8220;why?&#8221;.  Most know you are not the kind of person who would make that impact on the environment without questioning first if it is necessary.  It is this kind of awareness that is the first step towards change, and the more people who have it the closer we will be.  Be proud, you are an inspiration for those who seek this in all aspects of life.  Crush on.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sampson</title>
		<link>http://sonnietrotter.com/2010/06/28/whos-in-charge-here/comment-page-1/#comment-6154</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sampson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, generalizations may always be rash, but self-expression (conduct), or company expression is the core method of describing to the rest of the world about one&#039;s beliefs.

Through my perception, I immiediately saw retarded ignorance in the logo, and so my defense of Sonnie is going to come out hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, generalizations may always be rash, but self-expression (conduct), or company expression is the core method of describing to the rest of the world about one&#8217;s beliefs.</p>
<p>Through my perception, I immiediately saw retarded ignorance in the logo, and so my defense of Sonnie is going to come out hard.</p>
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		<title>By: john cocktosin</title>
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		<dc:creator>john cocktosin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thorough and honest reply Sonnie.  I like to play devil&#039;s advocate, as dissenting discourse tends to yield healthy conversations and arguments.  Mike @17, was I defending the logo?  Or was I saying that making generalizations about a company based on a picture might be rash?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thorough and honest reply Sonnie.  I like to play devil&#8217;s advocate, as dissenting discourse tends to yield healthy conversations and arguments.  Mike @17, was I defending the logo?  Or was I saying that making generalizations about a company based on a picture might be rash?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonnie</title>
		<link>http://sonnietrotter.com/2010/06/28/whos-in-charge-here/comment-page-1/#comment-6145</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike, thanks mate, but I&#039;m not backing down, I still feel the same way, it&#039;s just that I could have expressed my opinion without being so harsh, even though I was joking around.  Some people just get their panties all up in a bunch and I must respect that. Also, the whole plane thing is a soft spot for me. I can&#039;t help but feel a little bit guilty when I&#039;m 40,000 feet high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike, thanks mate, but I&#8217;m not backing down, I still feel the same way, it&#8217;s just that I could have expressed my opinion without being so harsh, even though I was joking around.  Some people just get their panties all up in a bunch and I must respect that. Also, the whole plane thing is a soft spot for me. I can&#8217;t help but feel a little bit guilty when I&#8217;m 40,000 feet high.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sampson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Sampson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonnie, why back down and apologize for expressing your opinion on a blatantly idiotic logo?

Anyone who defends that nonsense has problems, especially those who are psyched on a climbing site, I am just shaking my head right now.

And yeah the analogies with planes are sooo intellectual. Seems to me that humanity is restricted by current technology, and the only choice (dictated by evil society controllers or the unseen force behind life--you pick)is petroleum. This is a far cry from advertising insignifcant crap like paint in an obviously disrespectful manner towards the Earth. And yes the gullible eat that nonsense up.

M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonnie, why back down and apologize for expressing your opinion on a blatantly idiotic logo?</p>
<p>Anyone who defends that nonsense has problems, especially those who are psyched on a climbing site, I am just shaking my head right now.</p>
<p>And yeah the analogies with planes are sooo intellectual. Seems to me that humanity is restricted by current technology, and the only choice (dictated by evil society controllers or the unseen force behind life&#8211;you pick)is petroleum. This is a far cry from advertising insignifcant crap like paint in an obviously disrespectful manner towards the Earth. And yes the gullible eat that nonsense up.</p>
<p>M.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the logo is better used in this contex.
http://www.treehugger.com/20100618-bp-cover-the-earth.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the logo is better used in this contex.<br />
<a href="http://www.treehugger.com/20100618-bp-cover-the-earth.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.treehugger.com/20100618-bp-cover-the-earth.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touche. Okay, okay, I went too far, I know.  Heartless is a very strong word, and I have no right using it on a company I know nothing about. In fact, I have no right using it at all.  I&#039;ve never met a heartless person in my life.  Can I take it back?  But the whole 737 thing kills me.  Every single time. It&#039;s ONE of the most selfish things we do as earthlings.  Flying all over the world, burning resources we&#039;ll never get back, polluting the air, all for a bit of rock scrambling and sight seeing.  It breaks my heart every time I board a plane. It&#039;s not like we travel to save lives (well, some do), or travel to solve important issues (again, very few), we board planes because we&#039;re bored, to see friends, crimp some rock, and take some crummy pictures and try to have a &quot;cultural&quot; experience in a matter of weeks.  It sucks so bad, and it&#039;s worse when I look at the flight schedule of any air port in around the world, there are literally hundreds, and thousands of flights every single day.  It&#039;s a depressing thought. But What should we do?  I&#039;ve thought very hard about just not flying anymore, like Ron Kauk, he just never leaves the Valley, you practically have to drag him out.  It&#039;s very inspiring.  But then I think about all the beautiful places I wish I could see.  Maybe one day, they&#039;ll have Hybrid planes?  Anyway, sorry about the &#039;heartless&#039; comment John, I was just playing around, I really didn&#039;t mean to offend anyone, or for anyone to take my nonsense seriously.  My deepest most sincere apology.  But I still think they should consider changing their slogan and logo, who knows it might do them some good, business might boom, and then they really could paint the earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touche. Okay, okay, I went too far, I know.  Heartless is a very strong word, and I have no right using it on a company I know nothing about. In fact, I have no right using it at all.  I&#8217;ve never met a heartless person in my life.  Can I take it back?  But the whole 737 thing kills me.  Every single time. It&#8217;s ONE of the most selfish things we do as earthlings.  Flying all over the world, burning resources we&#8217;ll never get back, polluting the air, all for a bit of rock scrambling and sight seeing.  It breaks my heart every time I board a plane. It&#8217;s not like we travel to save lives (well, some do), or travel to solve important issues (again, very few), we board planes because we&#8217;re bored, to see friends, crimp some rock, and take some crummy pictures and try to have a &#8220;cultural&#8221; experience in a matter of weeks.  It sucks so bad, and it&#8217;s worse when I look at the flight schedule of any air port in around the world, there are literally hundreds, and thousands of flights every single day.  It&#8217;s a depressing thought. But What should we do?  I&#8217;ve thought very hard about just not flying anymore, like Ron Kauk, he just never leaves the Valley, you practically have to drag him out.  It&#8217;s very inspiring.  But then I think about all the beautiful places I wish I could see.  Maybe one day, they&#8217;ll have Hybrid planes?  Anyway, sorry about the &#8216;heartless&#8217; comment John, I was just playing around, I really didn&#8217;t mean to offend anyone, or for anyone to take my nonsense seriously.  My deepest most sincere apology.  But I still think they should consider changing their slogan and logo, who knows it might do them some good, business might boom, and then they really could paint the earth.</p>
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		<title>By: john cocktosin</title>
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		<dc:creator>john cocktosin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right.  It seems completely realistic to deem a company &quot;likely heartless&quot; based on the logo on a van.  They are clearly out to destroy the planet.  BTW, when is your next trip on a 737 for a 3 day climbing trip or trade show?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right.  It seems completely realistic to deem a company &#8220;likely heartless&#8221; based on the logo on a van.  They are clearly out to destroy the planet.  BTW, when is your next trip on a 737 for a 3 day climbing trip or trade show?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 03:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw one of these trucks as I was driving to work (pardon) and I was completely shocked. Just goes to show you how brain-dead the average person is. We are all screwed. Idiots are in control of our government and major corporations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw one of these trucks as I was driving to work (pardon) and I was completely shocked. Just goes to show you how brain-dead the average person is. We are all screwed. Idiots are in control of our government and major corporations.</p>
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