Comments on: two talented men, one rambling chump!

By: K

Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:46:02 +0000

They seem to have gotten along well enough to have a beer together.

http://englishdailaojeda.blogspot.com/2010/02/fish-eyefirst-8c-in-oliana.html

The rest is probably just internet hype…

Thanks for the updates Sonnie and looking forward to see some footage of the trip to El Gigante.

Cheers, K

By: Sonnie

Sonnie — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:57:17 +0000

Maybe you guys are right – but the real truth is, we don’t know shit, and it’s wrong for us to speculate. Especially on the net. I should take back what I wrote. All I was trying to say was that PERHAPS things would be different if Nalle stopped and just asked Chris politely if he could try it, instead of assuming that he could. It’s a lesson we can all relate to, consideration towards others. That’s all, nothing more. Feel free to continue this discussion if you’d like, but I won’t be partaking in it anymore, I feel bad for even raising the issue. Because honestly, I don’t really care that much, it just made me realize how important mindfulness can be, and I attempted (poorly) to illustrate that. Best wishes and happy climbing to all.

By: Fraser

Fraser — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:21:55 +0000

Preface: I’m only basing my opinion on what I’ve read on the net to date regarding this subject. As ever, there is no doubt more under the surface that has not been reported and may have cast a different light on the subject.

Having said that, I’d have had more respect for Sharma if he’d “taken this stance” against *anyone* that had asked to try the route, and that would surely include friends such as Graham & Andrada. To be so selective about who can or can’t try the routes seems a bit unfair.

From Nalle’s blog: ‘When I arrived in Spain, Dave Graham told me he had been working on it with Chris, so that also meant it must be open. Before I ever got on it, Chris asked me to give him a chance on it, so I did.’ That seems a pretty clear cut statement, and one which begs the question: why were Graham and Andrada ‘allowed’ on it but not Hukkataival?

By: Sonnie

Sonnie — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:32:52 +0000

Steve, agree to disagree? All is well with my friend, no worries, we shook hands a long time ago, thanks.
Mr Me, you’re absolutely right, thanks for putting me in my place.

By: Steve Traversari

Steve Traversari — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:29:26 +0000

Hey Sonnie,
I don’t know about your view of the sitiation. Nalle sounds like a bit of an opportunist, no? Kind of like waiting in the bushes all camouflaged and ready to pounce as soon as someone else spots a killer line.
By the way that incident with your now ex-buddy, that’s a long time ago, right? There’s been lots of water under that bridge. Wouldn’t it be time to shake (hands) and move on? Perhaps Nalle and Chris may come to the same conclusion. But regrettably I think that even in such cases only practice makes perfect.
Cheers,
Steve