Life is a Comic Book.

This is pretty funny. A friend of mine just e-mailed this to me, he said he found it on cascade climbers.com

I ‘m not sure which crag it was taken at, but apparantly somewhere in WA. It almost looks like the Basalt down in the lower canyon at Smith Rock. Either way, it’s funny as hell. I especially enjoy the arrow, as if the artist is leaving a shelf for the removed bolts to sit upon, but most likely is refering to the climb above. I suppose it may have some history, who knows, it’s just funny. Actually, let me take that back, it’s really sad that we as a climbing community can’t support and respect each other. On the Path-etic post below, Dave McLoed wrote me a letter telling me that the same issues are going on in Scotland and the rest of U.K. It’s like a war or something. What is the difference between people slinging mud and countries slinging bombs. Besides the obvious fact that people die, it’s such a shame that something as selfish and poitless as climbing still gets people’s panties up in a bunch. I think they just love to hear themselves talk is all. Why not climb instead?

Although the discussion on Gripped is riveting ‘n’ all, and I would not want to disrupt the fun people are having, especially when they spew the same quotes, the same defective facts and the same regurgitating dribble over and over, (that means you too “Jenny” wink, wink) – still, I have many justifiable reasons why the climb was restored and to the discontentment of many I would like to invite anyone who has a question about why I decided to remove the bolts on that particular climb to e-mail me at…

sonniejtrotter@yahoo.ca

or if that doesn’t work, try…

trotterthechopper@yahoo.com

Here is an un-interesting fact, those bolts were the first bolts I’ve ever chopped in my whole life. It actually felt pretty good, kinda like therapy. At first I didn’t know how to do it properly, I tried cutting them with a hacksaw, under the watchful eyes of Marc Piche and Topher Donahue, but in the end, a hammer works better. Just remove the hanger and washer and then whack the thing up and down until it bends in half, it will usually break right where the metal meets the stone, perfectly flush. Ideally you’d follow up on this with a bit of paint. Actually it was a tad bit scary to see how fast they just sheared in half and I have skinny girl arms, a few years ago my best friend tried to replace a bolt at Metcalf rock and broke it with a simple twist of a wrench. kinda scary.

Well, my coffee is getting cold now and I should probably get off this compoooter before I get a headache. To all those that are getting outside dispite the cold weather, HELL YA, you rule. If anyone is interested in buildering, there is a pretty sick chimney over by the hospital, off Bow Valley Trail – just try not to fall, the face doesn’t like concrete very much.

S.

  • owen

    trotter the chopper….thats hillarious

  • Suzanne

    Love the email addy, ‘trotterthechopper’, very original! ha ha!, now I wonder where that came from 😉

    Well said (to your post), actually I think the worst people in the sports world; ‘horrid bunch’, are definately in the climbing community, especially, and mainly on that gripped forum. They wouldn’t know what ‘friendly’ is.

    I’ve met far better in mtbing, kayaking, skiing etc, and they don’t; among other things, “all get their knickers in a twist” when someone does something like ‘removing bolts’ on a climb either. So what! how many people are going to be climbing 5.14 level to care anyway?

    I went to the Sunshine coast for 2 days, y’know, where the sun shines. Got shown around by a framer initially, who has almost finished building a huge house on the sea front there; and at Edmont I met a great, “most friendly!” interactive fun bunch of Kayakers doing 180 degree flips in the rapids (white water), they made me want to get in and join them except I didn’t have the kayak with me, though one offered to lend me his, just a bit too cold without the titanium semi-dry suit.

    We had Aussies, Canadians, one who is also a climber from Kamloops!, who told me all about Skaha); a yank (from Oregan) who is also a climber and told me about climbing Smith rocks at Utah, and NZ where he went after Bush got elected, I like that it made him leave the country! mind you that’d make me want to leave the country; and Paddy (irishman). The two climbers are spending more time doing watersports lately than climbing they tell me, can’t think why.. but from all I could see they were a mixed crowd that got together ‘by chance’ and were having a great time with a great attitude to match. Shame more can’t be that way in the climbing world.

    Not sure about here in Canada, though I’m sure it is much the same; but certainly in the UK it is well known that there are ‘two different kinds of climber’; one sort are laid back, easy going, humorous, positive and broad-minded.

    Then there is the other kind, who are boring, mindless, narrow-minded, judgemental, nit pickers..

    and have fewer friends 😉

    I wonder which of those two are on that gripped forum? No prizes for guessing..

  • chris

    in 7 years of using GRIPPED’s board, ONE person that I know of has been run out of town. That person writes about things they know nothing about, misunderstands the intent of communication, sprays shamelessly, clogs threads with bullshit and does not even try to figure out the board’s communal etiquette. Is it that the GRIPPED forum memebrs are all jerks, or could there be another explanation?

    Oh, and Sonnie, awesome work, you’re an inspiration.

  • Suzanne

    I think Sonnie can see for himself whether most on the gripped site are all jerks or not. Read his posts on this site, if you can read? Not least though for the ongoing constant negative abuse they post toward others from day 1, who they never even met, don’t even know; as well as commenting on something pathetic as removing bolts from a 5.14 route that alot of you will never climb anyway.

    Sonnie’s an inspiration alright, compared to alot on that gripped site; there is “no comparison”.

  • Suzanne

    Here let me remind you of an important and accurate fact he made above:

    besides the obvious fact that people die, it’s such a shame that something as selfish and pointless as climbing still gets people’s panties up in a bunch. I think they just love to hear themselves talk is all. Why not climb instead?

    7 years is a bit long to spend on ‘a public online forum’ posting daily and deciding who can, and who cannot post (anyone outside of your little clique) it seems, and who to be nice or not nice to; emailing a person to tell them to act one way/ or slander some behind their backs, then act the opposite in front of the more false crowd on the forum. Maybe you and your clique should learn to climb more, may prevent you from feeling like you own the site that way too. How some people get a real kick out of being so nasty to others is beyond me; but then we’d all have to be like you all to relate to you all.

  • Suzanne

    Out of all the forums I’ve interacted on, not daily and not for 7 years I might add; the gripped on is by far the worst. Many others are more sensitive to others, despite if what they post may not be what specifically want to read; we all don’t act in that same online bullying manner, nor do we encourage it from others.

    So yes, it seems the explanation of them all being mostly jerks is quite accurate.

  • Suzanne

    And Sonnie; you may like to just delete the above posts if you wish. If it’s making your more ‘positive’ website a little negative, from Chris and my responses to it. I apologise for that. Thank Dru, he encouraged them here.

    Talking of which, you’d never believe how

    “low” they can get, some stalked me online on my ukclimbing.com profile too, encouraged trouble there, and got themselves banned; and on the vancouver outdoor forum, made up a post from me and posted as if it were me?; Crazy. They treat people badly yet expect them to sit there and take it?

    And just going from all this; they then have the nerve to ask if they act like jerks.

    This is Sonnies website, I respect that, he deserves much as I said previously. You should all do the same by not continuing your negative abuse here; you can do that on gripped site as always.

  • Sonnie Trotter

    Hey Suzanne,

    I’m really glad you found this site and you seem genuine and enthusiastic and that’s very refreshing, thanks. However, I think Chris agrees with you on many topics you touched on and I don’t think his intentions were negative. In fat, I appreciate your comments Chris. The fact is the Gripped site is not all full of jerks, just regular people like us who see things differently, they are no better or no worse than we are. It is obvious that Gripped has a dark side yes, but there is also a lot of good happeing there too, it’s just harder and harder to see through the dirt.

    Thanks for your comments Chris, and to everyone with positive vibrations. Suzanne I also appreciate your comments, sincerely, but correct me if I’m wrong, i think I dedected a slight hint of finger pointing in your last post. Using words like (your little clique) and (if you can read) really don’t do this site any good. This site is an open forum style yes and it’s open to anyone who wants to share their comments, but I won’t allow any level of embroilment to take place. Let’s just keep things light and positive. Thanks so much.

    Good night to all and to all a good night.

    S.

  • Suzanne

    No worries Sonnie, excuse the anger in the last post, kind of hard not to be with the constant negative remarks that’s gone on there, and not just toward me; I said clique as it tends to always come from the same posters.

    In response to your comments: The fact is the Gripped site is not all full of jerks, just regular people like us who see things differently, they are no better or no worse than we are.

    I hope everyone there will now view that from that same perspective, always.

    Yours: It is obvious that Gripped has a dark side yes, but there is also a lot of good happening there too, it’s just harder and harder to see through the dirt.

    Certainly is.

    And yes I agree, it’s definately far better to keep everything positive, and light ongoing.

    Thanks, and have a good night yourself 🙂